Barbara Kevles standing near vintage equipment

Woman to Woman

Journalist Barbara Kevles 鈥62 reflects on her interviews with some of the most important women in American culture.

In the 1990s, 老王论坛 Libraries acquired recordings and research materials from journalist and author Barbara Kevles 鈥62. Kevles, whose journalistic work is also in the collections of Yale University Beinecke Rare Book & Manuscript Library, the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum, and Stanford University Libraries Special Collections, has worked as a freelance journalist for major publications for over 50 years. Her articles have been published in such national magazines as Esquire, Salon, The Atlantic, The New York Times, The Paris Review, People, Harper鈥檚 Bazaar, Cosmopolitan, Glamour, Redbook, Ladies鈥 Home Journal, and Good Housekeeping.

She interviewed some of the most important women in American culture from the late 1960s through the 1970s. The materials purchased by the College, known as the Barbara Lynne Kevles Papers and Recordings, include almost 40 interview tapes featuring winners of Oscars, Emmys, and Grammys, the first Black champion of Wimbledon, pioneer politicians, an international diplomat, and more. Her memories of some of these interviews and their meaning to Kevles follow.

Jeanne Moreau

grey scale close-up of Jeanne Moreau
The French actress photographed around 1955. Kevles interviewed Moreau for the charter issue of Working Woman magazine. Alamy.com

I was supposed to interview leading French actress Jeanne Moreau for the Working Woman charter issue in New York. But she bailed from the flu and then decamped to the Beverly Hills home of her husband-to-be, director William Friedkin. When we finally met, she asked, 鈥淲hy did you follow me?鈥

I blurted out that important creative women I鈥檇 interviewed like Pulitzer poet Anne Sexton and photographer Diane Arbus had killed themselves. Toward the end, Moreau gave me what I was seeking. Lighting a cigarette, she said, 鈥淭he choices I made, the energy, the depressions ... all of that is constructive. 鈥 When 鈥 you鈥檙e facing a wall, what鈥檚 really reassuring is 鈥 nothing lasts in life. Not even despair. Not even happiness. It will be changed into something else. 鈥 So that鈥檚 renewing.鈥

Joan Kennedy

Image of Joan Kennedy with husband Ted Kennedy
Pictured with her husband, Senator Ted Kennedy. Kevles interviewed Joan Kennedy for a 1969 Good Housekeeping cover story. Alamy.com

鈥淗ow would you like to be known just as a sexy blond,鈥 Joan Kennedy asked during a watershed interview for a 1969 Good Housekeeping cover story. The press had roasted her for wearing a silver mini-dress to a President Nixon White House afternoon reception.

The dumb blond moniker hardly described Senator Ted Kennedy鈥檚 wife. In 1964, she did what no other Kennedy woman had done鈥攃ampaigned successfully for re-election in place of her husband, who was immobilized from a severe back injury suffered in a plane crash. In 1967, Washington鈥檚 National Symphony Orchestra invited this Manhattanville College music major to narrate Prokofiev鈥檚 Peter and the Wolf, a feat she repeated with conductor Arthur Fiedler in Boston and Tanglewood. Kennedy told me, 鈥淚鈥檇 rather help Ted in this way than campaign.鈥

 

Edith Head

Portrait of Edith Head in front of Academy Award statuettes
Costume designer Edith Head posing with her eight Academy Award statuettes. Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences

Hollywood costume designer Edith Head, a Working Woman assignment, took no chances on the first day of filming Universal鈥檚 multimillion-dollar Airport '77. The eight-time Oscar winner had arrived at 7 that morning to be sure she had doubles, triples, quadruples of all accessories. Because of casting problems, many costumes were on the set for the first time. She said, 鈥淲hat tries the nerves is worrying whether they will photograph right.鈥

She added, 鈥淚鈥檓 under terrific pressures. I鈥檓 under such pressures that at the drop of a hat, I鈥檇 crash through the ceiling if I could.鈥

 

 

Eunice Kennedy Shriver

Eunice Kennedy Shriver at event
Eunice Kennedy Shriver at the 1963 signing of the Mental Retardation Facilities and Community Mental Health Centers Construction Act. Cecil Stoughton/JFK Presidential Library

Eunice Kennedy Shriver, featured in a March '76 Ladies鈥 Home Journal profile, was shameless when it came to getting something she wanted done. She called congressmen and senators in the morning between 6 and 8. She once called her youngest brother, Senator Ted Kennedy, at 5:40 a.m. 鈥淓unice, I鈥檓 sleeping,鈥 he protested. 鈥淏ut you鈥檙e awake now,鈥 she said, and continued.

Her singular 鈥渃alling鈥 was for the intellectually impaired. One night she asked her older brother, President John Kennedy, if he would be willing to appoint a presidential panel to study the problems and needs of the intellectually impaired. 鈥淚s a panel necessary?鈥 he asked. She reminded him that in a recent congressional report on mental health 鈥渢he retarded aren鈥檛 even mentioned.鈥

The resulting 1961 President's Panel on Mental Retardation, on which Shriver served as unpaid consultant, led to passage of the Mental Retardation Facilities and Community Mental Health Centers Construction Act, signed into law three weeks before her brother鈥檚 assassination. An associate told me: 鈥淓unice鈥檚 the nearest thing to JFK when it comes to political instincts. She鈥檚 not one 鈥 who likes to claim credit, but 鈥 she鈥檚 the one who got that mental retardation law passed.鈥

Shirley Temple Black

Shirley Temple Black with President Richard Nixon
Shirley Temple Black with President Richard Nixon and Major General Brent Scowcroft, while Black was U.S. Ambassador to Ghana, 1974. White House Photo Office Collection

At 43, Mrs. Charles Black still possessed the Shirley Temple pout and squiggle of dimples of her famous childhood. We met for lunch at New York鈥檚 Waldorf Astoria for a Saturday Evening Post feature about Black鈥檚 new role as deputy chairman of the U.S. Delegation to the U.N. Preparatory Committee for the first U.N Conference on the Human Environment.

A waiter brought a specialty鈥攃ompliments of the house鈥攖o Little Miss Marker. 鈥淲hy didn鈥檛 you become the spoiled child of your generation?鈥 I asked.

She laughed, 鈥淚 started working at age 3 and at that age it seemed very natural鈥攍ike, 鈥楧oesn鈥檛 everybody make movies?鈥 I didn鈥檛 know any different.鈥

The studio stress on discipline and preparation helped her excel as a diplomat. Ambassador Glenn Olds, then number two at the mission and later president of Kent State University, dubbed Black 鈥淭he U.S.鈥 secret weapon.鈥 Her popularity and glamour as a former movie star helped. 鈥淧eople were surprised by the
toughness of her positions,鈥 Olds argued, 鈥渂ut she prepared. That鈥檚 what made her tough-minded.鈥

Barbara Kopple

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American film director Barbara Kopple in 1975 at work on Harlan County, USA, her first Oscar-winning documentary. Cabin Creek Films

I interviewed director Barbara Kopple, then 30, a month after Harlan County, USA, a film about a miners鈥 strike, won a coveted Academy Award for Best Documentary. I lobbed many questions including how she handled discrimination as a woman in the Kentucky coal fields. She told about filming the last week of the trial of United Mine Workers of America President Tony Boyle. He faced charges of conspiracy in the murder of a UMWA opponent, his wife,
and their daughter.

A CBS network cameraman insisted she get press credentials. She had鈥攆rom UPI鈥攂ut he called and demanded they be revoked. She replaced them with top security American Film Institute grantee credentials and was back the next morning. 鈥淗e was livid. He was outside with other network camera people character assassinating us,鈥 Kopple said. 鈥淚t was the day of the verdict so we were set up inside.鈥 When they wheeled Boyle out, he recognized her, answered some questions, and left. 鈥淭he network camera people had blown the whole thing,鈥 she said.

鈥淪uddenly, I felt this guy ripping the microphone out of my hand and yelling, 鈥業鈥檓 going to kill you.鈥欌 Kopple shot back with, 鈥淭hink about what you鈥檙e doing because you鈥檙e being filmed.鈥 He backed off.

鈥淚t wasn鈥檛 necessary to get angry,鈥 Kopple stressed. 鈥淚t was necessary to 鈥 figure out how to get around that 鈥 to do what I wanted to do.鈥 Kopple was awarded the first of two Oscars on March 28, 1977.

 

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Published on: 10/26/2022